A fare to remember… (and an ex to forget!)
Game Plan
Why is getting from point A to point B so difficult at your lowest? In this week’s episode, we navigate the messy, often bureaucratic intersections of personal collapse and public infrastructure. From the heartbreak of finally calling it quits on a marriage that went nowhere to the raw reality of being behind bars, we reminisce on our deepest woes and what happens when life’s basic systems—marriage, transportation, and the justice system—all break down at once.
Do I have to introduce those just in case?
Just in case. Hello everyone, and welcome to
Two Twongs the Lie. I'm Taylor Perry.
You say this is so funny. I don't know why, it's just so
funny to do. It more and more animated just
for you. Thank you.
And I'm in moon. Hello.
With all the enthusiasm in the world, of course.
Of course we need to be. It's all about balance.
All about balance. What a beautiful Saturday here
in Nashville. Everyone or I love it.
It is decent outside, but the humidity is all.
You in this humidity? Wow, humidity.
Her and I are not. Such a desert boy.
Damn right. Anyway, so we had two topics we
were going to talk. About Today Wonderful show for
you today. It is a beautiful show, very
powerful, very powerful show. We want to give to everybody.
That's a hope. We're hoping that we are hoping
that you can learn through our hardships.
Basically, we we hope that we absorbed all the pain for you so
that you can make the right decisions in your life,
literally. Literally all the pain.
We that that that is that's the goal today, actually.
And I think I think that's a beautiful thing.
It's gorgeous. It is beautiful.
It's gorgeous, Dalek. Gorgeous, gorgeous.
So we agreed that I would go first, you go first.
Yeah, I I won the coin toss. There was a coin toss.
No, I'm joking. Don't.
Don't do it. Oh, you're serious?
Ask. Yeah.
I was about to, so I make a lot of my life decisions from Siri
flipping a coin. I make a yeah.
I think we all kind of like we all have their tails.
We all try to depend on AI a lot.
My my my AI got me through my whole online biology class.
Yeah, I know. I asked her to just heads or
tails. College is so much easier
nowadays. It really is, and it was.
Truly just school in general. Is 15 years ago when I was
trying to do it school. In general is easier just
because of AI. Well, OK, not just the AI, but
also just how much how everything is so electronic and
digital now. Like I don't even have to take
notes. And that was half the problem
when I was in college back in, you know, 2008 to 2010 was I had
to take everything handwritten. There was PowerPoint slides, but
it wasn't as it wasn't like now where that is your notes.
So I and I have horrible handwriting.
So what would I do? Well?
You're a man. I go back, I go back.
I have My handwriting has been described as loopy chicken
scratch, which is about as bad as it.
I think most people's handwriting, if it's bad, it's.
Just not as bad as chicken scratch.
Mine's really bad. We'll do a handwriting
comparison after we're done. We'll.
Report back. I did notice your list on your
desk and it is not great handwriting.
It's really bad. No, I know.
I literally just college is way better.
It's way better than USB. I couldn't hear.
I couldn't not better. So anyways, what I was doing was
or what I was saying was I would take all these handwritten notes
and I couldn't read them. So I never, it was really hard
for me to study. It's so much easier to study now
that nothing is really handwritten anymore.
I mean you don't even really have to grab a pen and paper for
like anything anymore. Not anymore, but I mean there
are those people who need to like write it down like 6 times
in order for it to be in. And I still do for work.
I, which is what you were talking about.
Like the little list that was all like, work stuff.
Yeah, in my hand. And I'm glad you noticed.
My handwriting's really bad. You're learning so much about
me. I am sensitive to noises and
smells and. Picky about your food?
Very, very. I'm not.
I am not a picky eater. I am picky on the quality of
food. I don't eat sad food.
I said food places. But as far as like items, I'm
not picky. I just want good quality food.
I'm from Chicago, all right, Chicago, we have we have world
class restaurants. It is the some of the best food
you're ever going to get is in Chicago.
So when I go other places, which I'm not complaining about
Nashville, Nashville actually has really good food.
It's still disappointing really a little bit not from Vegas.
We have literally everything. I got horrible food poisoning in
Vegas. Oh, that's on you.
Sorry. Top of the Rio?
We'd not recommend it. No Rio.
You went to the Rio. I don't know.
My friend took me there. You wanted to go to the
steakhouse at the top of the Rio No.
If any steakhouse you're going to go to, it needs to be the one
in MGM. It killed us.
Yeah, MGM needs to be the one you go to.
And we went to an all you can eat sushi buffet.
That might have been it as well. That was a big mistake.
Probably got worms from the parasite.
Hold on, it gets worse. Oh God, I ordered the special
All you can eat. What was it?
What was it? Like fatty Tuna or I don't
remember something like that, but it nearly killed us did.
It give you parasites. I don't know, but it took like a
week to feel better. They got it was like the last
day, but the that's the word. That actually could be like the
worst day to get food poisoning on your vacation because then
you have to travel back with food poisoning.
I had to go back from Vegas to Colorado, and then not only from
not only to the airport, but I had to take the train from the
airport to Denver, which if you've ever been there, it's not
a short ride. That airport is in the middle of
nowhere. Set up like a bomb shelter.
Vegas, the airports is in. Metal right there that in the
middle. I mean it's right there.
So convenient. I I I actually hate paying for
Ubers and Lyfts Like I will always I will always look for an
alternative because like in Chicago, like you have train,
amazing train, bus, public transit, there's that costs like
a few dollars. So like I see it as a complete
waste back in the city to order a Lyft when it's so easy to get
there on like the blue line. Or something.
You would think Nashville would be a little bit more updated
with the public transit, but the public transit here air rib
ball. I didn't even think there was
any. Exactly my point, it's awful
here. There's maybe like 3 buses and
they're only on like one Rd. Yeah, no, I've noticed.
And Vegas. I have to give Vegas.
I have to give Vegas a good props because they do have a
great bus system. I don't know about trains, but
the buses. Don't really do.
We don't do. Trains, the buses are very and I
feel safe taking the buses in. I don't I feel safe taking the
bus in Vegas too, because it's just big.
It's normal to take the bus for everybody in Vegas.
So and it's kind of like Chicago because like everybody takes
public transportation. It's normal.
Whereas like let's see, there's two cities I can think of and
then we can. San Antonio is bone of them,
where you feel very, very. Unsafe Denver was another one.
Yeah, no, Denver was another one.
Dallas might have been the worst experience I ever had.
With public transit. Yeah, I don't even know how I
like. I just was simply taking the
train to the, to the airport. Awful.
It was one of the worst adventures I've ever gone on in
my life. I almost got my ass kicked like
3 different times. I'm like, I don't even know why.
I'm like, OK, maybe I should have just splurged the $25 for a
lift on this trip. I mean, and then hold on.
So like, I like it was, it was a mess.
There was like there was like cops everywhere.
But it was just like, it was one of those things I'm like, I
can't believe I got myself into this.
And then the flooding was so bad on the tracks we had to get off
and order a lift. Was it monsoon season or
something? Yeah, it was.
It was really bad. It was like end of August in
Dallas and we had a Softball league tournament down there.
Yeah. And it was awful.
Yeah. It was really, really, really,
really bad. Storms all the times.
So I had to get off and order a lift.
And then the guy I was talking to that was really nice was like
stranded and broke. And I was like, get in here,
I'll drop you off where you need to go.
And it was just such a mess of a trip.
I'll never take public transportation in Dallas.
Well, really anywhere. I've just kind of grown that
like if I'm outside of Chicago or Vegas where the buses are
great, I'm not going to take public transportation.
I don't. I don't want to rely on it in
cities. I hate it.
I hate it. I hate it.
I hated public transit. I was like resentful of it until
I had no vehicle and I was forced to take it.
I was forced to start doing it in San Antonio.
I was. Gonna say which city though.
San Antonio was when I started taking buses and all that public
transit, which I will say San Antonio, as awful as a public
transit is, their system is actually really great because it
actually goes throughout the entire city, OK.
Maybe not Dallas, but I was always under the impression that
the infrastructure in Texas is just great in general.
No, terrible cuz like those roads in San Antonio, I don't
know if they're using them, but like those skyways, kind of
impressive. OK, so Dallas is kind of cool.
So Dallas has a lot more sky roads than any other.
Well, maybe Houston. Dallas or San Antonio?
Dallas, Dallas and Houston, their sky roads are so much
better and they're all freeway. San Antonio we do have them.
We do, but just the infrastructure alone altogether
is terrible. It's literally set up like 2
giant circles with a line through it like a giant no
symbol. Well, and I do notice that in
Texas, the roads and the skyways, they're very confusing
looking. Yes, they are.
Oh my God, it's just like a big tornado of skyways.
They call those clovers. They call those clovers.
OK, we have clovers back in Illinois.
This is like clovers on crack. Yeah.
I mean, clovers on crack and steroids.
I'd never seen. I I was just driving in down
driving downtown Chicago is fine, but driving in any rural
let's see it was Dallas where I noticed the big giant
infrastructure you're talking about.
I was kind of looking over like, I don't know how you're
following all this, even with the GPS.
Yeah, it's. Difficult, but San Antonio is
the only one city in Texas that I noticed has like the like U
turns on the freeways like they have you like Yeah.
A warehouse. Have I noticed that we
definitely don't have them back in Illinois.
I don't. I only noticed that in San
Antonio. Illinois is not great for U
turns. My I had an aunt that lived in
Kansas City. They have actual U-turn lanes
which is very convenient. OK.
But they're kind of dangerous too if you're not familiar with
them, because in Austin, I saw they.
Don't have very many in Austin though.
They are. We had one.
They're there, but not very. My ex and I went to the What was
the Sun thing that happened a couple years ago.
The eclipse. That thing.
Yes, total eclipse of the Hub. Copyright.
Oh my God, we're going to get sued.
Keep going, at least we'll be in the news.
What's her name? Oh, she sues the two twangs.
Vodka. Anyways, what was I talking
about? I don't even remember.
Skyways, freeways, infrastructure, Awesome Eclipse.
Oh yeah, EU turn things. So like when you're not familiar
with them, you do EU turn and you're turning left to get into
the like. Get into the most left lane and
then U-turn OK. When you're not familiar with
them though it you don't realize that it darts you into the lane
like. There's no little separate lane
for you to yield into the lane like.
Depending. Some do, some don't.
My ex and I almost got in a wreck.
Thank God we had a Tesla that was it caught it and it stopped.
It caught the other car coming and it stopped really quick and
then the car just went in front of us.
But if that if we wouldn't have had cuz we had no other way to
get a different car down there because it was the eclipse and
everything was rented and the guy was like we have tons of
Teslas and we're like it'll take 1.
He knew my ex knew how to drive it so it was fine.
But those U-turn lanes if you're not familiar with them they
could be dangerous because it darts you out into the lane like
you are. You're there.
By Speaking of Teslas, you let me drive yours today, this
morning, and what do you think? Not a fan.
Why not a fan? Why?
Cuz I'm used to like whenever I take like whenever you are
accelerating, right, you kind of like take your, your foot off
the gas and you kind of like it's toast.
It's. It's not like instantly.
Stopped. Instantly stopped.
You will get used to that. You will get used to that, I
promise. That's my biggest pet peeve.
And you can ease that, I think. I don't know, but I think
they're my. Biggest pet peeve.
But you know why it does that though, right?
Because, like, it's electric. Well, hold on.
As you're rolling up to the stop light and you're not pressing
the gas, but it's rolling, it's trying to recharge the battery a
little bit and I think that's to offset the acceleration.
So it actually there is. Yeah, there is.
So that's my a reason. That's the one time I have
driven a Tesla so far and that's I'm not a fan so far but.
I was, I was actually scared to drive it in Austin.
My ex drove when we when we got the one for the eclipse, my ex
drove the entire time because I was a little scared to drive it.
He wasn't. He knew exactly what he.
Was doing but he's a fan of a Tesla so far.
But I mean maybe if I there's more practice.
OK, but there is. Stuff that you'll get used to.
I will say that I'm sure, but like brand new, brand new to
Tesla's. It was my first time driving 1.
Not the biggest fan so far but you know my there's.
Stuff you have to get used to. There's just stuff you have to
get used to. My opinion can't change in the
future. And then there and you don't
have to have a Tesla, there are a lot there's not electric.
Cars BMWs don't do the same thing.
My ex that I was just talking about has the Chevy Equinox.
Oh, my conversion. So not the electric person.
He loves it, he loves it. He absolutely loved it.
I got a Tesla because of the autopilot and the full self
driving. It's still how.
Do you even how do you even like let that?
How do you even start that thing?
Because like I was just like fully like.
You. You really don't.
It just starts. You just get in the car and it
starts. Well, you do like the double
aligned thing, the double like down thing.
And then, oh, you're talking about the autopilot.
Yeah, that thing. That's what I'm talking about.
You push the little gear shift. Yeah, you push it down twice,
just tap it twice. That's it.
Like on the highway or on like a business way.
That's it. But it won't.
The autopilot won't stop at a stop sign or a stoplight.
It'll alert you to stop, but you have to pay the $99 upgrade for
it to get it to stop at stoplights.
Stoplights. Is that per month?
Just in general? It's a month.
No, thank you. I I've considered it, but at the
same time, like I work from home and the autopilot's actually
nice. It's already nice enough.
You don't, I mean. The extra package if you're
working from home and don't barely use your car.
Yeah. And that's kind of where I'm at.
And then I've thought about like, OK, maybe if I like drive
back to Chicago, it's like a 910 hour drive with an.
Electric car because you have to.
I thought you said 16 or something.
No? Well, OK, maybe in the winter,
so. Not a big fan of 10.
Not a big fan of. Tesla so far, where was I at?
Though, but I was making a point about the autopilot and I
thought Tesla's for you to drive back to Chicago was like 16
hours instead of 10. OK no.
OK. So it's actually like 7 or 8
with a gas car? Yeah, but in the winter time
with an electric car, it takes a lot longer than and you would.
Think because you'd have to stop it to charge.
It and then you have to charge so much more because the cold is
taking away from your charge. I thought the cold would have
been like beneficial to the battery.
Not the least bit, No, because it has to precondition and warm
itself up to charge before it gets to the charging station.
Makes like when it's already warm out.
It really kind of. Doesn't even have to warm.
Up so it doesn't have to suck all that charge out of the
battery to warm itself up in the winter.
It's trying to keep itself warm all the time.
Got it. So it takes a lot more.
So it takes like, yeah, 10:11 hours in the winter with
electricity. Do you want me to put my?
Do you want me to put? My that's fine.
I'll just remember to like move the mouse every once in a while.
Keep going or do you want me to start move on from Tesla's?
It's fine for now. We.
Have my mouse thing in there. Yeah, we're fine for now.
Let's move on. Move on.
We're moving on to the topics. So now we're going to start our
actual topics of the day, everyone.
That was our that was our rant for the day.
That was that was just our rant. I grant you can call it wasn't
necessarily political. No, it was our rant for.
The day public transportation and electric cars public
transportation. That was a fair, I think that
was a fair round, though, because public transportation
greatly varies from city to city.
Agreed. And you know, when you're from a
big city like New York or Chicago and you're so used to
public transportation and it's just, it is a part of your life,
and you go to other cities and you're like, detrimental.
And you're like, Oh my God, I wished I would have ordered a
lift. This is so scary.
Yeah, it is pretty bad. I'm sick of those moments, but
that's fair. But you know what else is scary?
2 Tonks and a lie or jail. Yeah, I mean, both are pretty
scary. Both are pretty.
Scary. Kind of scary.
This tonk is scary. I'm not.
Am I really that scary? Though you're really not.
Actually, I don't think so. I mean, because the entire time,
like I was like, well, not the entire time, but recently you
said that I scared you because of my.
You do kind of scare me. Criminal slash jail experience.
I thought you were gonna murder me at some point.
No, I haven't murdered anyone. Yet.
I'm not a murderer. Yet she did 10 years hard time.
She's out on parole and she finds her way to me.
My next. Victim.
Guys if I go missing. No you won't.
You're fine. Or at least not like Nancy Gun
3, but. Oh my God.
Nancy. You're still missing though.
But anyway, Nancy, RIP. So why don't you start with, why
don't you just start from the beginning?
Let's just let's hear everything and I will, I'll, I'll pick some
questions as we go. OK, so well, do we have to start
at the beginning because my beginning.
Wherever you want to start dialing.
OK. So most recently, we'll start
most recently. So I had a court meeting with
the San Antonio like San Antonio court System on Monday, Tuesday
it was Tuesday and then Wednesday I had both days.
I had to go to both days. Tuesday was at like 1:30 in the
afternoon and then the next day was like 9 in the morning.
So and these were to discuss my felony charge that I had
accumulated in San Antonio, TX. So what happened was.
What? Happened was I was basically
homeless and couch surfing in San Antonio and I had made the
executive decision to move to Nashville because I had family
here. It was the easiest way to hit
reset all my life, of course. So we've all been there.
Yeah. And so I had made the executive
decision to move to Nashville at like two or three in the
morning. I don't know why I was that
early, but it was like two or three AM.
And so throughout that day, I had planned to say goodbye to my
friends, anyone that was important to me.
And so I had a friend who was staying at a hotel at the time
for motel really at Studio 6 off of San Pedro, if anyone knows
San Antonio, not me. So I went to go visit them, say
goodbye to them. And then right after I was
saying goodbye and leaving, there was an officer that pulled
out right behind me. And I was like, OK, well shit.
This is kind of like great, great, great, great, because
supposedly that motel is notoriously known for drug sales
and prostitution. All the good stuff.
All the good stuff, all the fun stuff, all the fun stuff.
And this isn't even in Vegas. This is San Antonio.
So it wasn't even. It's illegal to do that there.
It might have been like, was there something on your car that
they was a good excuse to like, pull you over?
Like you had something on your mirror?
There was a blinker. Out of suspicion, strictly out
of suspicion. That was, that was their.
Excuse to pull me this case. To pull you over and that was
all justified and legal in the system and everything.
Supposedly so far yeah, but so they pulled me over literally
like as they was pulling out and I just so happened to be on some
controlled substances at the time.
I am since then been sober of. Course good thank you Woohoo
gave me so bright. Give yourself an.
Applause. Yeah, that's right.
We have that now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Clapping. Is that the one that works?
I think, I hope so. I think it works.
I hope so. We'll find out.
So I had a controlled substance on myself in my bag that was 1
to 4G and I told the officer Oh dear.
So the officer asked to search my vehicle and I said no because
you guys always leave it a mess and never clean up after
yourselves. Which is true.
Like they don't. It's your response to the
opposite. You guys are pigs.
You guys are messy. I'm not going to like go through
my car and destroy it all because I have to clean up after
your asses. No.
And I want you to like go through.
It. So, but they went and searched
it anyways and that's when they found that they controlled
substance. And then I was arrested that
morning, taken in, and it was at like 10:00 AM when that
happened, like 10:11 AM. So the rest of the day I spent
in the San Antonio Bear County booking section of their jail.
And later that afternoon at like 7:00 or 8:00 PM, one of the
correctional officers was reading a list of names.
I didn't know what it was at the time.
And so my name just happened to be on it.
So, and later I find out the officer says like the more you
like, like basically cooperate and this will go a lot faster.
Blah blah. And I was like, yeah, it's all a
trick. Yeah, I was like, yeah, sure,
whatever. But no.
It was a list to be released. I know, but they always say
they're going to like, hey, we'll help you if you do this
and it always comes back and bite to.
It I guess, but like I was I had no idea because like.
I know it's really hard when you don't know what's going on.
I know. So what happened was I was
released that night. Literally like hours later I
spent the day in a fucking holding and then was released.
To me it felt like nothing. And so I had sold my vehicle
that next day and then within like two or three hours I was on
the road to Nashville to move to Nashville and all within like a
24 hour period. And so I had kind of forgot that
I had that I guess arrest on my record.
And because it was a controlled substance, it was a class
something. I forgot what class it was, but
it was a felony charge. And so it took me forever to
finally get like indicted and like everything like processed.
The whole thing takes forever. Yeah, but it was, it's been 6
years, right, Since then, like it's been six whole years.
So me and my lawyer, that's why we had the court sessions
earlier this week was to try to get it dismissed, or at least
get it to the point where we could fight for lack of a speedy
trial on the court's part to get it dismissed because it had been
six years, right? Like why is has it taken so
long? So long?
So that's what we were talking about.
And we got approved for the motion to reschedule for a court
date to fight the fact that it was lack of a speedy trial on
the court behalf. So the next court date is going
to be on the 30th of this month. And you have to go back to San
Antonio. No, this one.
This one was approved to be a Zoom meeting.
OK, OK. So, but if it doesn't, if the if
the motion doesn't like is not successful, then there is at
some point I am going to have to go back to San Antonio at some
point if the case keeps going. So but yeah, that was that.
And then recently, back in November of 2025, I was arrested
then because I thought I was like I was on probation and I
thought I was going in to like pay my last fine.
Be telling. Me, all that.
Yeah. But they don't.
No, I know. I just said I'm remembering
right now. Yeah.
So I want to go into pay. My last fine showed up in court
and they said that I had a probation violation.
And I was like what for? Like what probation did I
violate? And supposedly when you're on
probation, you can't have any cop encounters at all, even if
you're the victim, which I was. So I had a motorcycle accident
back in August. Oh my God.
Now this. You didn't tell me.
Oh no. Yeah, so back in August, I had a
motorcycle accident that totaled my second motorcycle.
Boo Hoo. Because it's second driver's
fault. And so there was a bystander
that called the cops, and because they called the cops and
did the police report, it was a cop encounter.
So that was the probation violation.
Oh my. God, that's awful though Mike,
that was my copy. So that was a probation
violation. So when I went to court in
November, they had arrested me then when I was in court.
And I was looking cute too. Aw, that's so cute.
Feeling like I was. Feeling like I was looking cute,
feeling my oh it was feeling great.
Yeah. And then they arrested me, mind
you. So they told me to put my phone
back into the vehicle because there's no phones in the
courtroom or anything. Yeah, So I did that, put my
phone back in the vehicle. They arrested me.
So I have nothing. I have nothing to get like any
phone numbers off of. I only have the one that I have
memorized, which is my thank God.
So I was arrested, was there for about a week and a half.
And then I saw the judge and they were like, yeah, you're
fine. You could be released today.
So I was like, yay, finally. Perfect.
So the court is at like 9:00 in the morning and they finally
come get you at like 5-6 PM in the afternoon.
They have all day just like anticipating like them to call
your name to be released, which is torture.
So they called my name to be released.
So I go down to the booking section to collect all my things
and belongings. And one of those CE OS behind
the desk was like, wait, who's he Take him back because he has
a hold on him from Texas. No, no.
So the entire month of November I was in jail.
So this is like the 4th or 5th Thanksgiving that I have missed.
Like I've decided that the world and the universe does not want
to like want me to celebrate Thanksgiving.
So now I've decided, just like anytime is November, I'm just
gonna say Happy Fat America Day. I feel that way about Halloween.
I always have. I I've the last few Halloweens
I've had haven't been that great and I all I want to do is go out
and have a fun Halloween. I got you girl.
It has not. Happened.
I got you. I got you not.
Happened yet half the time it's because I don't want to go out
the last minute and spend $200 on a get on a costume on a
costume. So like, I think I need to start
like thinking about a costume in like August.
Yes, you do. So I think that's how anywhere I
don't mean to steal. Or at least have like two or
three backups just in case. I don't mean to steal.
I do have, I do have a backup I have.
I usually throw on my cat mask, Yeah, and a fur coat and just go
as a cat. That's.
What you did last time? Or I had.
I used to have a SpongeBob cut out that I used to wear.
I know it was just this big SpongeBob cut out that I would
wear. It was always my backup costume.
SpongeBob. Yes.
Anyways, I threw it away. OK, keep going with your keep
going. Keep going darling.
So I I was pissed the fact that they like take me back.
I have a hold on me from Texas, which I had no idea about.
I thought that was taken care of because.
Then the judge just cleared you and.
The judge just said I could be released so they took me back.
I'm pissed. I throw like I'm pissed like I'm
punching walls like I'm so mad. And then they Call My Name again
to go down to booking to get fingerprinted for this Texas
hold where I have to see the commissioner and everything.
And I'm pissed. Like, you can see it on my face.
Like I'm just irritated as hell. So I do my fingerprints.
The commissioner comes in over. She's like, she calls my name.
I was like, what? I need you to confirm your name.
I was like, you have my paper right in front of you, bitch.
Like don't act stupid. You know who the fuck I am?
Like, I'm pissed. Of course, no patience, right?
And she's like, I just had to confirm.
I was like, OK, well, it's confirmed.
Go keep going. What?
Like, now what? You guys said I could be
released and now I'm still here. Fuck, what?
Like, what could, what else could you do?
And so she basically said there was no bond.
I was like, OK, OK, well, yeah, you guys just said I could be
released, and now there's no bond.
Great. What's next?
Bitch. Like calling her a bitch?
I've heard the word. Yeah, every other sentence.
It was terrible. And then she was like, well, we
didn't run your name through, like, the national public system
or whatever. I was like, OK, and whose fault
is that? I've been here for two weeks and
you guys didn't run my name when I first got here.
Seems like a flop on your part. It's all there's flops all over
with these jail systems and all the correctional facilities.
She had nothing else. To say they're awful.
She had nothing else to say because she knows I was right.
Mess after mess after mess, and then there's always turnover
with the office. She knows I was right, She knows
I was right because it is a flop on their part.
Because I was there for two weeks and they didn't run my
name when I first showed up. Bitch, why and where?
So I was in jail for like the entire month of November and
then on December 1st or second I was extradited to Texas.
And mind you, I think the best part of the entire jail time was
the trip from Tennessee to Texas.
How did you get there? By like shuttle bus kind of the
whole. Time, yeah, from Tennessee to
Tech, that's like a 14 hour drive, right?
Yeah, but we also had to make stops.
OK. Because they had like gone
through like some route to pick up other inmates that had to be
dropped off at other jails as well because they were being
extradited as well. So what I was, I was the last
pickup, Thank God I was the last pickup.
And they, we had to drop out. There was seven other people in
the, the vehicle, I guess we'll call it like to be dropped off
at whatever jail that they were being excited to.
We had a stop off in Memphis. We had a stop in, we had like
one stop in like 2 like a county in Texas and then one just
outside of Fort Worth. And I hated the guy who dropped
off the Fort Worth. He was so annoying.
And then Houston and then finally San Antonio.
So I got to San Antonio and their booking process is
forever. I got there at like 230, AMI
wasn't. And like I posted bond at like
5:00 PM that same day on like December 2nd.
So I was there all day and then they still hadn't released me
until 3:30 the next morning on December 3rd.
So that's like what, 58910 like 10 hours just sitting, just
sitting there waiting to be called out to be released.
And so I was released in San Antonio, TX without any
resources because mind you, I remember I had left my phone in
the car. So no phone, no nothing, right?
And so thank God I had met some people in booking in San Antonio
that are so sweet, so nice when we still texted this day.
But he was super sweet, super kind that he just so happened to
be released at the same time I was, thank God.
And he was super kind and got me a burner phone and a plan.
And so I was able to like, book myself a flight back to fucking
Tennessee the same day on December 3rd.
Like it wasn't like. OK, I haven't heard the term
burner phone in a while. So what exactly is a burner
phone? 9 days?
Because back then, I mean 15 years ago, a burner phone was
just a prepaid flip phone that you bought at a gas station.
That's the thing, basically you still have prepaid flip no?
Remember that one short period of time when I had like 2
phones, 1 was an iPhone and 1 was like a little Android thing.
But is it a but it's a, it's a, it's a smartphone now like
burner phone, cheap smartphone. But so you can you can get you
can get a prepaid burner smartphone still at a gas
station. We had to wait.
We had to go to Walmart when they opened or Walmart.
We had to do that. Yeah.
So he was super nice, got me a phone, got me a fucking phone,
burner phone fan and everything and super sweet, super kind of
love him. Hope he's watching.
Hope he's listening and doing. It's nice.
It's nice when you have someone help you pick up the pieces.
I have to give my my ex-boyfriend back in Wisconsin a
lot of credit for helping me pick up a lot of pieces after my
divorce. A lot of my credit goes to my
mom, honestly. Like she.
My mom too. Absolutely.
Love her. Thanks, Mom.
Yeah, my mom, my dad, my family was always very supportive
throughout my divorce. But my ex, my ex, Jay, if you're
out there listening, he was a big help.
He really helped me pick up the pieces and we're not together
anymore. It was a very amicable breakup.
That was part of the reason why I moved to Nashville from
Wisconsin. It just there wasn't anything.
We had kind of grown apart and he was traveling a lot.
Now, was he the one that you divorced, or was he just?
Like no, this was just an ex. Jay and I were together for four
years from like. So long term.
End of 21 till Yeah, about July of August of last year.
So just long term ex. Yeah, it was just a really good
yeah. He was my boyfriend for a few
years and then but my my ex-husband is back in Chicago at
a lake house we bought in a place called Island Lake, IL.
So. But yeah, so am I OK to move on
to? I was trying.
To do you. Have any I was trying to have
any any part of your story you still want to I.
Mean there were any loose ends. There was a few like gaps
because like I do have to go to court again on the 27th.
No, the 24th form of the San Antonio probation thing, No,
sorry for the national probation thing.
It's on the 24th is when I have to go back to court and be like,
yes, here's my probation payment, yadda, yadda, yadda.
And then the 30th is my San Antonio.
Is all of this coming to an end soon though?
I mean it should finally going to get some.
It should have came to an end closure on the 17th.
It should have came to a close on the 17th.
But your. Your year, it sounds like
everything's starting to get cleaned up.
You're coming to some closure. It better, I hope not.
So if we missed an episode here coming.
Up soon, I don't know how I'm going to do the show by myself
like I guess. If we miss an episode coming up
soon, guys, I'm so sorry. It's not my fault.
Is there like a chat bot that I can do the show?
Actually I have to find a goods. I'm actually a temporary Co host
I. Actually, I have a good
reference for you. I'll FaceTime her today so you
can meet her and everything, just in case this does happen.
Oh dear. OK.
Her name is Talia. She's amazing.
Love you, girl. Hope you're listening.
You better be listening if you're going to be.
Co host. Is she twinky?
This is 2 twunks and a lot. She she's like, she's like, I
hate to say this term, but she's my fag hag.
She's a lesbian. I like get married to Emory
Woke. That was great.
That's not woke. It's not, but it's amazing.
She's great. I love her so much.
We love our fag. Hags no, I love her to death.
She's got me through we. Would be the gay community.
The gay community would be nowhere without its fag.
Hags I love her so much. She's like this little petite
thing. Like we met in college, her and
I were the only psych majors in our psychology class.
That's funny, I did surprisingly really well in my site class
last year. I aced it with Klein colors.
College isn't hard. It was like 300 level.
It's not hard. No, it wasn't.
Like this semester what I'm doing is a psychology of
criminal and ethics of a personality for psychology, and
then I'm doing corrections and incarcerations for my elective
course. That's if I don't pass that one.
I'm going to be, I think, and maybe you'll, you'll, you'll
know what I'm talking about. My psychology class was a 300
level course and I had to just take it for the elective to get
my 3 but it was conditional and it's classical conditioning.
And what's the other one? Something else?
There was no. There's concrete conditioning
and then classical. It was all in conditioning and I
can't remember what the other one was.
But either going. It was in person.
Yeah, like with paper. And you say has to be.
So I couldn't cheat. No, can't cheat.
No. Can't use AI.
No, can't do anything. Not really.
I still aced it. Congratulations.
I was actually pretty proud of myself.
I have to give myself credit after.
After. And what do you remember from
the class? I remember how classical,
classical conditioning, I kind of remember the equations on the
the stimuli and the OK, nothing. I don't remember anything, but I
did ace it at the time I thought so there was like these little
equations like the stimuli and then the thing and then it
equals the thing. I knew I I know I understood it
back then. So there's a stimulus, which is
usually the cause of the behavior that is invoked.
OK, so there was a hold on. There was a dog example.
One of the scientists used dogs and he had a saliva on.
It rang saliva. He rang a bell to indicate that
they were going to be fed. Yes.
And then the bell is the thing. The bell was the thing that the
bell is the I don't know the word, but the bell is the
conditioning tool, I guess as you would say.
Yes, I see. I know about all this and the
guy did the dog where he was monitoring saliva when they
would ring a bell and get a treat.
Then he would take the treat away and just ring the bell.
And they were still saliva. And they were still saliva.
See, I know what the hell I'm talking about.
But it also goes in with humans too.
They they just use dogs for that experiment because it was marked
most like humane, I guess because it wasn't like actual
human trials. It was like dogs.
Yeah. So and that.
Yeah. Anyways, but we get to move on
to. Yeah.
So me mentioning your divorce was trying to like no trying to
segue into. It we'll, we'll segue back.
No, but picking, having someone picking up the pieces, that's
what we were talking about. It is, it is very helpful
because I, I mean, my, my ex was, I don't know if I would
have been able to do without my ex.
I mean, he really didn't, he didn't care that I was going
through divorce. He didn't really judge me or
anything. But this was the this was the ex
I was just lost in. Wisconsin.
Yeah, OK. That was there's Chicago
ex-husband and there's Wisconsin ex-boyfriend.
Some days I feel like Ross like 3 divorces.
Like, I don't know how anyone does that.
I don't even have like a single divorce under my belt.
And I kind of. Don't and then there was there
was like another short term ex like in between those two.
So like she literally I literally I literally am like
she's. Just a hoe.
I am I am like Ross, like 3 divorces like.
Just a hoe, that's what she is. So anyways, my ex, my ex-husband
and I though met when I was I think like 25 back in Chicago.
We met he actually. This is the ex-husband.
Ex-husband. I'm starting from the beginning.
ex-husband ex-husband I was serving tables late night at a
little vegan. It was vegan and carnivore kind
of place. How can it be the end of it's
carnivore? Because they had two separate
cooks, two separate fryers, 2 separate.
So they had a vegan option. Yes, they had the vegan menu
items, and then they also had meat and cheese and dairy and
everything, but they also had vegan dairy.
So kind of like Cheesecake Factory.
I didn't know Cheesecake Factory.
Yeah, they have. The skinny licious menu, which
is the vegetarian side. Yeah, they just, it was just
kind of like they had litter. Litter.
They can work with anybody, honestly.
They're. Aya chia, some would say.
And I was in the heart of Wrigleyville of Chicago, so a
very rowdy area, but great place to make money though It was.
It was awesome. A very busy place.
Yeah, I I had worked there for a couple years and he actually
came through one night and he left his number on the receipt.
That's so corny. That was really cute.
No, it's corny it. Was like the start of a romance.
Movie. Exactly.
It's corny it. Ended like a horror movie, but
it's like, so that happened and I he just still, he used to joke
around that like he I wasn't even at the car yet and you were
already texting me. Were you really?
Yeah, like texted him right then and there.
I did kind of text, but usually I kind of like wait a little bit
because I mean I would like get numbers on the receipts every
once in a while, but it was always somebody like.
How many, really? Necessarily I probably over the
I've worked there for like 3 years, I probably got probably
like once a year someone would maybe have the balls to do that.
So you got like 3 to 4 numbers total.
Yeah, yeah, about about 3 or 4 numbers.
But the other, the other ones weren't really anyone that I was
like actually into. My ex-husband was the only one
that I actually was like, wow, I.
And like into the fact that you would text him literally seconds
from him leaving. The table, yeah.
And then we were kind of like inseparable ever since we did
and like that first year is always good for anybody, right,
because you're. The honeymoon phase.
Yeah, and it, it lasts about a good year actually, I would say.
And and also not everyone does. Well, hold on.
Because like dating in Chicago is different because it's really
cold all the time. So you're always, when you're
going into like winter season, they call it cuffing season.
That's that's universal. OK, OK.
Cuffing season is universal. I'm still kind of like what is.
I thought cuffing. I thought cuffing.
Would be like dirty. No cuffing season is basically
engagement like with the rings. OK.
I thought it, I thought it was kinky.
No, it's literally cuffing season is literally just
proposal season. OK, well, Chicago has cuffing
season, which is the winter season.
But then like festival season is when it's warm out, so
everybody's partying and hooking up.
No one's actually ever really looking for relationships.
So like, yeah, it's really hard. And I've heard from other people
too, like dating in Chicago can be kind of hard because of that.
So it just seems like it doesn't.
It just doesn't seem, it seems like no matter what season it
is, it's not this difficult season.
And so maybe that's what it. Is I mean romance season is
cupping season technically because that's when all the
proposals happen. And it probably takes about a
year for someone to start showing their true colors.
Usually about I would. The honeymoon phase that and so
the honeymoon phase lasted about a year.
Like in the honeymoon phase, you're like watching you don't
burp, you hold your farts in. You kind of like yes, like try
to be still be cutesy. Like some people, like I know
girls especially, they try to like wake up a few minutes
earlier than the husband, go to the bathroom, touch up their
gloss and like, look how cute. I wouldn't.
I would run in and mouthwash at least real quick and then run
back to bed. Absolutely 100%.
So it and it lasted about a year.
Yeah, cuz then you get tired and you're just like, I can't do
this forever. And then I would say cuz he and
I were together for almost 6 years, married for three.
And then after that, I mean, I wouldn't, I would say, I would
go as far as saying marriage. Marriage really does kind of
change everything. I agree.
It really kind of it does shift to dynamic.
It does. I don't know why because I
wouldn't. I we started having problems
almost right after we got married.
I don't know why the marriage that life event was.
So I don't know why it is. It seemed like we were pretty
decent up until then but also like we just had a lot of
differences as far as like he was like ex military and treated
like a boot camp whereas I'm a little bit more free going and I
go with the flow, see where the wind takes us that day kind of
person. He was like, no.
No, because. Of structure and we need
projects and then we get free work hard and then then we get
free time because he's. Military, like everything in his
life, had been dictated up until that moment.
So he needs something to like go.
Up and then hold on mute point on that too.
He was super, he grew up super religious Baptist like 3-3 days
a week. So him being gay already you?
Get that? Him being gay already is like a
shunning. Horrible relationship with his
pastor father. Horrible relationship.
Like. But then forced to go and act
like the perfect family at church three days a week.
You kind of are he had any religious bases?
He had to get up. He, I think he pretty much said
he went into the military just to get away from them.
Good for him. And I don't blame him based on
what he told me. Like apparently they were a
little bit of a trashy family. I mean, drinking and fighting
not. But then every Sunday they had
to present like, oh, we're so happy and loving.
Well, half the site his mom and dad were.
And so he had half the side, which is his dad, which was the
religious side, the religious side, he was the pastor.
So he was going in and oh, we're the perfect family, we're so
great and everything but. Behind closed doors, but.
Behind the closed doors, it's not like his dad was abusive or
anything, but like he was really cheap and made everybody live a
cheap lifestyle. We can't have new toys, we can't
have new clothes. We can't do any of that sticks
in the yard. We have to give to the church,
like play with the sticks in the yard.
But his dad always had the most newest, most beautiful, nicest
suit for church. He was just a very he was a
selfish prick. He was my father.
My ex father-in-law was a horrible person, but Oh my God
he was the he was the Baptist minister of the era that
everyone just adored so. Calvin Klein suit he was.
Awful. He was awful.
Tom Ford and my ex inherited some of those traits and I
started noticing it. I'm like, girl, we you, you have
all this money for all this stuff that you want to go do.
But when I wanted to go, my favorite comedian back in the
day was Wanda Sykes. I still love her, but when I
want to go see Wanda Sykes at the Chicago Theater and I get
questioned about it and it's only $150.00, this is just not
gonna work. And it was just like little
things like that. I'm like you really need this is
a two way St. How many brothers does he have,
just out of curiosity? Yeah, Oh my God, his family is.
So massive, just big family, a lot of siblings.
So I'm just well, because it's Oh yeah, just kids.
And who lived with his dad like him?
And how many siblings that lived in that household with his dad?
So you have the dad. Whatever mistress he's seeing
that week. He has a full brother OK between
his blood mom and blood dad. And then how many Mom and dad
split. So then the dad married again
and they had two more boys. So he has two half.
Two half brothers and A and a full brother.
So there's like 4 total including those halves hold on
him, his brother, and then the two halves on his dad's side at
least. Yes, there is two brothers on
the half side. I'm trying.
I had to think of the other one. Yes.
There was there's a cute. One and a not so cute.
One, the only reason why I'm asking is because my one
brother, the one that currently lives with me, has picked up
some of the worst traits that my dad has too.
We all slowly turn into our parents.
We all slowly turn into our parents.
The. Anger management that my dad has
whenever he's under any type of alcohol, my brother has
constantly. Whenever he's not attached to a
video game, he's angry all the fucking time and it makes me
work for my nephew. So I'm just, I was just curious
if it's like just like a thing between like passed down to sons
or whatever. But he also has so he has the
two younger step brothers or half brothers.
And then on the mom side. On the mom's side it they never
had any more kids, but then the stepdad has a daughter too.
So he has a step sister who has. 11 kids.
So the stepdaughter. Has a love birth Catholic, super
Catholic so and I don't think she's done.
I wouldn't be surprised if she popped out and she's like in her
late 40s. I wouldn't be surprised if she
popped out more. So step sister has the million
children. Million children and they all
grow up and they can't wait to get away from her because she.
Has. She has all these kids that says
a lot and then expects everybody to help her take care of them
and everybody runs well. Can you blame them?
That's why she has more kids, because she has other.
To take care of the kids. It was insane.
His family was just like they were.
A tornado mix. It was a mess.
The whole thing was just a mess. So I wasn't close with my in
laws at all. I don't blame you.
I don't think anyone else. I'll give my mother-in-law and
my ex mother-in-law and my ex stepfather in law.
They were very nice. I have to give them credit.
They were fine. But the whole, the whole
situation was just a mess. It was.
It was almost a bit overwhelming sometimes.
Like I could imagine. Oh my God, so and so we already
were kind of like we were back in Skokie in Chicago.
If anyone knows where Skokie is? It sounds very rural.
No, it's a border suburb on the north of Chicago.
It's actually wonderful little perfect hidden gem to live,
actually, because you've got the convenience of the city.
But then you're also right on the highway too.
So you have the convenience of the highway, but then you also
still have the train that goes to that.
They have their own specific train that goes to the suburb
anyways, so. Which is nice.
It is very nice. I actually do miss living in
Skokie. It was a wonderful little area.
OK, so we were living there. We were in a one bedroom
apartment, one bedroom condo. So we've got our first condo and
he was. Part of the two lies last week,
right, which was part of your one truth and a lie last week,
which that's the condo you were talking about.
I forgot what I said, but yeah, you.
Said that you had only been on one trip during covert season
with him. You had a condo on some Chicago
stream? It was, I said, Michigan Ave.
We did not live in. Michigan, but you had a condo,
which is the one you're talking about right now.
Yes, that is the condo. And he remodeled the whole
thing. He was.
Yeah. He just absolutely did
everything. And then I find out, though,
that like, OK, he's tried to screw me with that in the
divorce because, like, that was that technically in his name.
We weren't married yet. So he was kind of all doing it
for himself, though. He liked to say, oh, I'm doing
this all for you so you can have a nice condo.
You were all doing this for yourself.
He was gonna he sold it under his name.
I didn't I he didn't think I was going to see it dime.
But thank for God for Illinois law.
That changed towards the end. But anyway, so he he did remodel
the whole condo. It looked beautiful, I will say
that. But then COVID hit and it was
it. Yeah, we got married and then
like 2 years later COVID hit and then that was kind of like the
start of the demise because you guys were together in an hamster
cage 800 square foot condo. Granted, like I said, it was a
beautiful condo. All brand new, brand new shower
doors, tile shower, everything was beautiful.
But stuck, I will say absolutely stuck in a hamster cage.
Two people that like any 2. Like if it's like I was a COVID
divorce, I'll admit it. That's fine.
There's no shame in it. No, every.
It happened to a lot of people, but we were already kind of
having some issues going up until that point.
But it was. COVID was the detriment.
COVID was the death. Yes, absolutely.
I have this one friend who had been like with his partner only
for like 8 months and because the partner didn't have a job
and he worked from home, that's kind of that's a big chunk of
it. That's a big chunk of it right
there. And friend worked from home
majority of the time. So like you, he was stuck in
this itty bitty one bedroom like X amount of square foot
apartment with the partner basically.
And was like, and the partner's unwell like he's psychotic and
everything. It's so bad.
Floyd one, yes, it's bad. And I got an update on him today
too. Actually, it's not my business
to share. Okay, good.
But anyways, but I got an update today on them and.
So friends doing great. He's now in Dallas and doing
amazing. But friend, the ex partner is
not well. So now we're at COVID, right?
We're stuck in the hamster cage. We'll stuck in the hamster cage.
Yeah, with my ex-husband, honestly.
So we're already kind of having some disconnects on a lot of
stuff. I kind of get the feeling that
he doesn't want to go do the recreational stuff that I want
to do, like hiking and water stuff, which can be fun, all of
that. I love doing nature stuff, and
I'm kind of starting to get the idea that he doesn't want to do
it. So I'm like, OK.
Well, he's not a nature. And then we got, I don't know, I
still kind of toss back and forth.
I think it was just a a matter of he wanted to choose where to
go, but then like he would never actually choose anything.
So then I choose something and it's so like, I'm like, OK,
well, then what do you want to do then?
Because I'm losing my mind in this little fucking hamster cage
during this COVID pandemic. It was awful.
Having said, we do need to go rock climbing one day.
Together I love rock climbing. I I have a little bit of a fear
of heights now, but I think I can work with rock climbing a
little. Bit indoor wall so you'll.
Be indoor. I can be fab, absolutely fine.
But. Compromise for both of us when
it's indorsed for me too. It's a Rockwall for you, yeah.
I can handle that, but so proceed Atari.
So we were having disconnects on what we wanted to go do and
stuff we had in common and everything.
I think another thing too, was just kind of just assumed that I
was gonna be the little homemaker and just bowed to him
and take care of him and rub his feet after he sits down on the
recliner and put his shoes away and be the 50s housewife.
Which I mean, it's not a bad gig if they make enough.
OK, but. I'm.
I am also. Of Co a very independent
individual. It's just not what I signed up
for, I guess. And I think, and I think that
like back in the day, maybe I thought it was cute and maybe
that is what I wanted, but I think I grew out of it.
I mean, and he wasn't. And and I kind of we kind of had
to talk about that, but then like he also just.
Also, once you live in, it's not the same as wanting it.
Like once you live the experience of like what you
think you want, you kind of were like, oh, this is not what I
wanted at all, but. The problem when you talked
about him was something is he, they teach you stuff in the
Marines, like mind games and I'll switch conversations on and
I and I was, I would just, I, I couldn't, I'm like, there was
that one, there was that one point.
I was just like, I can't talk to you about anything.
Was he personally known for it? Yeah, yeah.
And just and kind of always flipping it back on me, but like
in a nice way, kind of but like I'm like, these are I'm like,
these are mind games. This is manipulation that I'm
like that I started picking up on.
At least he was. Doing it in a nice.
Way it was nice about it but I'm also like that's very cunning
and very sly and this is just not what I wanted out of snake
like very that's not what I wanted out of a husband like now
I don't trust you like now there's now we're losing trust
so. And and then, of course, can't
forget still being stuck in a hamster cage during the
pandemic. Yeah.
So enclosed. So we start to go on trips.
Yeah. We start to finally actually go
do stuff. Yeah.
I would say 3, Two of the three trips, we kind of argued and I,
we didn't really get along the whole time.
Because you guys were still in a hamster cage, basically.
Just just trying to get out and do stuff and we were still just,
I was trying to just get along, I guess.
But then the problem, the biggest thing was, and I think I
brought this up in my 222 cats and a lie and we got it.
Then our cat died, which was we were already having problems.
Then our then our poor little Kitty.
I was our little fluffy cat that died.
And so then we were just like just sad and mourning.
I know it's a cat, everyone. A pet is a pet is a.
Family when you don't have kids, and that is.
Your your fur baby. Your fur baby.
It's horrifying, right? It's terrible.
We kind of came together a little bit after that happened,
but then we got a new cat that and it was a breeder cat.
Yes. I'm sorry.
I don't shame me for getting a breeder cat.
I have. My dog was a purebred.
I have had five rescues throughout my life pay too.
So I just want that for the record.
My only dog was a purebred so I'm not hating.
I have. So I saved up and I went and got
what's called an ASA cat, which basically looks like a Bengal,
but it's not a hybrid Wildcat. It's all domestic.
So they don't ruin your house, they don't piss everywhere.
That's what they say. They well, it was a very good
cat. It was I and I, I would actually
think about maybe getting one again.
I just I have my hands full now. But so we got this cat that's
supposed to be able to walk on a leash and act like a dog and do
all the stuff, go hiking and everything.
And it kind of did, but you don't walk a cat.
No, you can put them on a leash and they'll Mosey around and
maybe follow you if that they don't, if that this one did this
one did this one was really good about all that, but you it's
it's not walking a dog. OK, so so the cat was great
actually, when we would get to where we're going on like hiking
and stuff, get little trails, it was fine get to however the.
Trail, Oregon. The traveling part.
You get there, the ride. To the right to the right to the
the right to the hiking trail was crazy.
Just aren't designed for car rides it's so bad.
And that was the basically the start of the.
End we fought every single every single place we brought that
cat, which was actually and mind you, we our big trip we went to
was Gatlinburg down here. Yes, that was actually one of
the first times I've been to Tennessee.
Very depressing. So no, well, actually it was
depressing because I didn't get to see Gatlinburg because it was
a pandemic. Like we went hiking and did all
the outdoor stuff that was open, but then we didn't do anything
on the inside cuz it was all kind of closed down and limited
and it was awful. So I actually kind of want to do
Gatlinburg Pigeon Forge again. It looked like it was for real,
like kids and stuff, which is perfect cuz I'm like, I'm a
little kid inside. So like I, I want to go do all
the tourist kids stuff too. So but then the cat, it would
it, that cat meowed. Yeah, the entire way down here.
Yeah. And it caused it.
We fought the whole time. We it was bad.
And so not so then that was just the Gatlinburg trip and the cat
just screamed the whole time that we fought.
And then there was other little trips that we went on around
Chicago where we brought the cat.
I know, I know. Isn't it funny that like this
was like a huge deal in my marriage was stop laughing, stop
laughing. This is a major event in my life
that I I was like, OK, it's just funny because I know how it
sounds when you're hearing about.
It I'm not. I thought that I was.
I've been saying yeah and for like the past five minutes to
see if you would notice. Just I'm telling my story.
I'm sorry. Reclaiming my time.
Reclaiming my time. Yeah, keep going.
So yeah, this is, this is. We're coming up to the end.
Don't worry. So we went on a couple little
trips and that cat puked and shit everywhere in the side of
inside of that car. And because of that.
And I threw a fit then like, I'm over this.
This is too much. This is annoying.
And he was the he was the kind that was what he says kind of
goes like he just, he didn't say so.
Yeah, he was just kind of that guy.
He was kind of a Dick about that.
That's ultimately why we ended up divorcing.
But this was just an example. The cat was an example.
He I don't even want to talk anymore.
No, keep going to do. That keep going, keep going to a
lie, have a good weekend, keep going.
It was it was kind of a final thing.
No, it was he would not he would not budget on bringing this damn
cat around. Like I kind of was over the
whole Instagram cat thing, you know, like we're going to have
the Super cat that vacations with us thing and after I was
scrubbing shit for like the third time out of the car, I'm
like, I'm over this, I'm done. He was not having it.
He would. He would.
He would not. Budget would.
He clean out the car, would he? Clean up any of the vomit or
shit in the car at all. No, he would, he would go take
the he would go, oh, I'm gonna go take care of the cat.
I'll, I'll walk the cat around while you clean.
I was the 50s housewife while you cleaned the car, you cleaned
up the vomit. I was cleaning it all up.
I'm like, I'm over this I'm done I'm over this.
So then we kind of got into the, so now we're getting into 2021
of January and we kind of are just, we're not.
And that was a cohesive anymore. We weren't really a cohesive
couple anymore at that point. Yeah, yeah, it was kind of done
after a few. We went on one trip and we went
on and we bought a house thinking that we could maybe try
to revive it, run from our problems.
Maybe we need to get. Maybe we need to get out of the
hamster cage. Maybe we need a house.
Maybe you know that doesn't work, right?
OK, giving it a try. We didn't know what else to do
at this point. I mean, it was, we was, we were
on the verge of divorce before, months before it even happened.
So we bought a house, took a trip, we tried to do everything
we could. We get into that house that
needs to be completely re renovated again.
So now I'm going through a whole new, whole new renovation thing,
which is a lot for a person. Yeah, when I don't want to work
on this kind of stuff. No.
And he's perfect at it and loves this kind of stuff.
But just again, differences, you know?
But differences do attract. I got in, I got into that house
there. I got into that house for two or
three weeks. We started projects and I'm
like, I can't do this. I don't want to.
I don't want to work on this house.
I'm not happy with you. We have nothing in common.
You whatever you feel like, says, goes like whatever.
Final say so. Yeah, he's the final say.
I have no say in anything. I'm still being treated like the
50s housewife. Yeah, that was that was where we
were at. I had kind of had it, so I
actually moved back to my hometown and I lived in my mom's
salon. For a.
Few months. Remember when I said I well, I
practically was. I practically was raised in a
salon for sure. But like when I I actually made
that salon my home for a while because COVID.
Also. So COVID also kind of hurt my
mom's business too, unfortunately.
So she. I mean, she's a salon owner, so.
Yeah, it was. People started noticing that
they can do their own nails at home.
They can do their own. Hair the barrel.
Well, or they could do their own color.
Like people got creative during the panel, People got creative
during. There were a lot of people
coming to my mom going. I'm so.
Sorry, I'm so sorry. Can you fix this?
So, but I literally, I moved out of that house and I lived in my
mom's salon because it was kind of vacant.
I just made an apartment out of it and I lived there in my
hometown of by you're in Illinois.
And then when did you move to your grandma's?
Basement. I didn't, I did.
So hold on, let me get there. I'll finish this up because I
know we're probably. You're slightly over, but it's.
Okay, it's fine. This is an important episode.
I'm getting a lot off our chest here.
So we are at summer of 2021 and I had lived in my.
I lived in the salon for a little while and then I met
ex-boyfriend from Wisconsin, Jay.
During the divorce. Yeah, I had already filed, but
yeah. And moved out.
But yeah, so. And then I met Jay and we hit it
off really well. We became best friends and we
did the normal gay thing. We moved in after three weeks.
I thought I was more lesbian and said again.
I know gays do it too, we just don't admit it.
But the salon was being sold. I'm sorry, you're right,
lesbians are like a week after. We lesbians are like the day of.
Yeah, after the first date, but. Your pussy out, Move in no.
God, you said the P word. Oh.
I'm sorry, that's the swat. So, but my mom, I got an
opportunity to sell the salon and she was like, you know, we
need to get this moving because this is just a vacant building
sitting here eating up money. So let's sell it.
So I got out of there after a few of like four months of
living there and I kind of missed it because it was kind of
cute. All my friends were.
It was downtown of the town and all my friends were right there.
It was right next to all the bars.
Amazing. Yeah, it was easy.
Just walk over there, have some fun.
And then I have some after parties over at the at the
salon. So, and there was one time where
we even had a makeup party. The one of my mom's makeup
artists just ghosted her and left, didn't pay her rent,
nothing, but left all of her stuff there.
So we just went in there. We had a huge makeup party.
Oh my God, we made ourselves look like clowns one night.
It was hilarious. So drag Queens.
Complete we did do a DIY drag queen makeup party that night.
It was hilarious and funny. I have I have pictures I can
show you so but so I moved to Wisconsin and I lived in Madison
with Jay for a little while. We had a we had a really nice
loft apartment that he and I still talk about how we miss
sometimes. We just loved that apart.
OK, so anything OK, so confession, I don't know if it's
a really confession, but I love a loft.
I love love too loft. I love.
My loft, if it has a spiral staircase, I didn't have I
didn't have the spiral staircase, but.
I had just any loft. I loved my loft.
I had a fireplace, like a big mantle fireplace with stone.
I would have a oil pin to get myself above it.
OK, here's my beef with the loft.
I don't know. There is one thing.
What's your What's your one? What's your one thing with a
little? Remember how?
I said I'm very temperature sensitive.
The hot upstairs and downstairs completely like environments.
Is like sleeping in hell upstairs.
Entirely different. Environments we had two prices
we had two hot options for a loft style we had a what's
considered you have two options for a loft.
Usually it's just one in our association where we were, we we
we shared a studio because he had already got the studio
before he met me. Yeah, I know so.
And his lease was up in like a few months.
So we did. So we well, I just moved in with
him to the studio. So picture me, him as a studio
in a studio it. Was fine.
That sounds worse than the condo it.
Was only a few I know and it was only a few months, but it was
honeymoon phase so it was fine. We had we had kind of just met.
So we were all like yay, I love you for.
The time being. And but it was only a few months
that we were kind of just, it was really cheap for us to split
that condo too. Of course, that's studio, our
studio. So, but then eventually we were
like, OK, well, it's been 3 or 4 months and the least sending we
need to upgrade. So we got a, we got a, you could
have a loft upstairs and the bedroom was downstairs.
And that's considered a 2 bedroom technically.
Or you could have just the one bedroom with the loft.
Loft upstairs, which is like a. Game.
Almost, but it had a really nice fireplace.
So you went with the game? Room and we liked the fireplace
so but our bedroom was upstairs in the loft so it was.
Like but there was a but there was a hot but it was the bedroom
downstairs. There was and not in the one
bedroom. There would there was only it
was a 2 bedroom or one bedroom. We went with the one bedroom.
OK, so there was no bedroom downstairs.
Not in the one we chose. Because was there a bathroom
upstairs? Fireplace and we liked the
balcony more. Was there a bathroom upstairs or
was it only downstairs? Only one bedroom.
Well, only one bathroom upstairs.
Upstairs. OK.
So it's more like, OK, so yeah. So that's a lot.
So we had that and then he actually had three kids.
Like he has three teenage sons, 2 teenage sons and a daughter.
So I was actually kind of a stepdad for a while live.
With the mom and he has some on weekends.
He they stayed with us a little bit, but they generally like to
stay at the at their mom's house.
She had probably. Had their own space.
She had a big nice house. She has a big nice house still,
so good for her. But no, the kids were fine.
Like we all got along. Everything was great.
How old are you at this time? Bitch, this was like just like a
year or two ago. Like this is how you're.
Still in the 30s. So this is like recent, yeah,
I'm like well into my 30s at this point.
So like, this is all very recent.
You were. Like 3233?
Yeah, that's not well into your 30s.
Well into your 30s is at least 30.
Five, I'm 35 now and it's been happening for the last four
years, so. But not really cuz you're no
longer with them and either way, stepdad.
OK, anyways, so we had our loft and then we moved.
He was like, you know, I kind of should maybe move a little bit
closer to the kids. And I'm like, I was all for it
because I wanted a house. I'm like, I have lived in condos
and apartments my whole like my half my adult career.
I'm like half my adult life. I'm I'm kind of over it.
I want to try a house. I want.
So we found this cute little small ranch with like a fourth
acre third acre lot. Not just a house, you found a
full ranch and. Well, the house was a ranch.
Ranch style. Ranch style house, I should say
that, yes. OK, thank you.
It was in town, It wasn't a ranch.
It was a ranch style house. So like a cute little White
House. And I wouldn't, I just wouldn't
say I hated living in a house. But it's a lot of estimated how
much was a lot having a house was.
It's a lot. There's a lot.
I really did. And there's a lot which actually
I do need to get to my house too eventually because the yard is
looking gnarly because now that it's.
Heard your mom say that last night.
Yeah, she's like, can we all start pitching into the front
yard? No, no, she didn't say All Star.
She said it like I need you to come and do the yard.
Oh yeah, she actually just kind of, but because I knew, didn't
she? Because she knows the brother
won't do it. The gay ones always have to take
on all the responsibilities. It's so sad like I do the
dishes, I do the yard, I do everything in that house only
because I have a lazy ass brother who doesn't do shit.
A lazy ass brother doesn't do shit and a mom who I think she
does. She deserves not to do any work
anymore. Like honestly at that part I'm
not mad about. It's the brother I'm pissed up
and and his wife. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry if you guys are listening.
I doubt it but like put your fucking kids toys away.
Please, please put your kids toys away at the end.
Of the day, there's the bus and there's your family under it.
Oh gosh, how do you really feel like?
I love my nephew, but Jesus Christ, I should not be the one
picking up his toys, you know what I mean?
I'm so sorry. Sorry, I doubt they're
listening. He just finally found out I had
a podcast. I'm not telling him the name of
it, but he just finally found out I had one my.
Mom right now my mom knew right from the start No, she she knew
right from the start. She listened to the very first
episode I. Told my mom she.
Already put our comments on comments on Spotify.
Thanks, Mom. Thanks, Mom.
She's actually our only comments so thanks mom, but like no one
else has said anything. I told my mom like my mom knows
about it and she knows. So she knows like I'm because we
found it like my place. And you're like she knows.
My mom knows, but she doesn't, she's not a podcast person.
She barely listens to music. I just started getting into
podcasts. Like I like them.
I do, but I have to be like in a mood.
Well, anyways, I think we are starting getting to the end of
the show. But so like, OK, so the
Wisconsin house, my ex and I just decided that it was time.
You know, he worked, he he worked 3/4.
He traveled for work 3-4, three weeks out of the four.
That sounds like a dream. So no, no, not when you're stuck
in a row. Wisconsin.
I was pretty, I was kind of alone.
So I was like, you know, I don't think it's going to work anymore
because he just started traveling more and more for
work. So that and, and on the on this
final note, that is actually where I saw Eyes on Nashville.
So. But it's not our final note
because we still have to do 2 lies in a tree with us.
That is my no and final notes of just the whole story.
So, but we, we had actually came on a trip to Nashville years ago
with the kids and everything. And that was when I thought
about maybe Nashville is going to be actually where I want to
live because I loved it. It's it's a perfect.
Compromise. Perfect distance away from
Chicago. Yeah, it's not too hot like down
South. Like, I don't know if I want the
total heat all the time, every day, all 360.
Like I don't want to do Florida heat.
No, absolutely not. But the humidity there's God
awful I've. Always thought Tennessee and
North Carolina were like the temperature, like the Goldilocks
kind of latitude for temperature.
It's kind of funny because my the best friend, totally the one
that might be your Co host if I do go to jail again.
She lives in North Carolina, so you guys would have to like be.
Like zoom into Carolina. The problem was North Carolina
was too far away to drive back to Chicago and I did not want to
have to. I mean, like, look at what's
been going on with the airlines for the last fucking year.
Like the year, the air controller issue, RHS, the TSA
issue that's going on right now, just.
A ton of plane crashes. This is why I did not want to
depend and the plane crashes too.
This is not. This is why I did not want to
depend on how having to get back for, let's say, a family
emergency. I got to get back home.
I can at least get into the car and just drive back at a
reasonable distance. Well, I'm a Midwesterner, we
drive everywhere. So like to me, a nine hour drive
is reasonable. I'm cool with that.
So especially when you have like a car that like does a lot of
the work itself. Yeah.
So, but yeah, no. And then that was how I that was
where I just decided I'm like, I really like Nashville.
And now we're here. And I.
Came down back in July and checked out all properties,
houses and this was my little townhouse.
I I really wanted a townhouse because I felt like it was the
best of both worlds but having a condo but then not having a
house too, it's kind of the best of both worlds because like I
have 0 maintenance on the outside.
I write my association check, which is very low every month,
and they do all the work for me. I moved in a month later.
I got a new roof, for God's sakes.
Congratulations. I mean, like, it's just, it is.
It is exactly the balance that I needed was having a townhouse.
I have my own house, but I have like, it's a townhouse.
They take care of everything outside.
Yes, they do. And I'm in between two places,
so like 2 units. So like the heat and the air
conditioning keeps me cool. Yeah.
So I don't really have to. I don't really have to blast the
heat of the air conditioning. That much.
The only thing like townhomes though is that it's usually just
one AC unit and not 2 because like back in Vegas we had two
upstairs and downstairs so it was easier to control.
Here it's just the one. It's funny and yes, I know what
you're talking about because I have men in hotter places than
like back in Chicago where where it's just one little air
conditioner. Just one, you know.
It's like that air conditioner. I have one air conditioner, but
have you seen the size of that air conditioner out there?
It's not that big really. I think it's huge, huge compared
to the little air conditioners back in Illinois.
As far as like for their home? That's a that's a big air
conditioner compared to the one. Like my grandma has air
conditioning her entire house back in Illinois.
Hers is half the size of that one.
Because that's in Illinois where it's.
Usually colder. No, I know.
I'm just saying when I when I first moved here though, I was
like, wow, that's a huge air conditioner.
But then I have no furnace. There's no furnace here.
There's none. So anyways, yes, that was my
saga. That was our sagas.
Our story. Of everything that we just
wanted to share with everybody, open up a little bit.
We hope that you can maybe grab something out of that and help.
Don't do drugs. That's helpful.
And you know, don't marry ex Marines.
I don't know if I would recommend that.
Best friend's a marine is married to a Marine right now,
so no. For now, no.
I didn't. I didn't prepare for one so this
is just on the fly. I don't know how you do it.
I can't do it on the fly. On the fly last week I was
panicking because I didn't do it before the show.
So I was like during the show, trying to like scramble for
things. Oh my God, so.
Writing it down on my phone. 2 truths and a lie.
I had driven 4 different vehicles in my entire life.
It's said that I'm not driving anyone now.
So first one is I've driven 4 vehicles in my toilet or like I
had owned 4 vehicles. OK, the second one is I had
lived in, yeah, 5 different cities my entire life.
And then my last one is going to be, I've only ever had one pet
that was actually mine for cars. 5 cities, 1 pet.
Which one's a lie? So the city trying to add up how
many cities you told me about? Not quite sure.
It comes up to five. You told me you're not a pet
person. Well, actually you said you are,
just you didn't say you're not a pet person.
You said you're just enjoying the freedom of not having a pet
right now. I believe the pet thing.
That I only ever owned one pet. What was the first one again?
I've driven 4 cars. You told me motorcycles.
The most recent. Should I say vehicles?
Yeah, vehicles. So now it's changing.
No, I'm catching the vehicles. I'm gonna go with the vehicle as
a lie. OK, so let me count my cities
real quick. So there was Denver, Las Vegas,
Theatre City, Austin, San Antonio.
No cities was a lie. I had only ever, I'd only ever
driven or like cars were mine mine.
I did have two motorcycles, but there were four cars that were
mine. Wait what cities did you say?
Cuz I don't know if I know about the other cities.
Denver is where I was born. I didn't know.
Oh, I did. You did tell me you were born in
Denver. I was born in Denver.
I did forget about Denver. I.
Was born in Denver but I moved when I was like one or two so I
have no memory of it. And did you or did you not ever
live in Salt Lake or you just? Never in Salt Lake.
Never once in Salt Lake. I just, I just made that up
because the Mormon thing, yeah, OK.
Never once did I live in Salt Lake.
And then 5121. Yes, 5215, but we really need to
figure that. Out.
It's still recording. We're fine.
So like I had was born in Denver, lived in Las Vegas, then
I moved to San Antonio, lived in Austin for a while, back to San
Antonio. Nashville was the 5th city that
I've lived in and I only took 4. Which one's your favorite?
Vegas, obviously still Vegas. Vegas is still my home.
Home. Home sweet home is Vegas.
And then cars and vehicles. I had only driven 4 cars in my
life. It was a Ford Focus, a Dodge
Durango. Like yeah, Dodge Durango,
Altima, and then a Sentra. And then I had two motorcycles.
The only ever. OK, so I've only ever lived in
Chicago and Madison and now Nashville.
Obviously I love Nashville the most actually.
And I've only ever driven Toyotas up until I got my Tesla.
My Tesla, I, I was a Toyota guy. I they are fucking reliable.
They're amazing on gas. I've never I've I've never had
any issues with a vehicle because I've only ever driven
Toyota. They are reliable.
So amazing, so amazing. That's our show today.
That's I think that's our show your your favorite non
practicing Mormon and Baptist boy coming to you from the X
Mormon the Bible belt. X Mormon and X Baptist.
I said non practicing but. I I I'm not even non practicing.
I'm an X I'm sorry, I no excommunicated, all right.
Well, I think, I think, sorry, I'm done.
I think most Mormon boys grow up and hate their religion
actually. I'm not surprised, but that's it
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